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	<description>by Deborah</description>
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		<title>By: unknown</title>
		<link>http://inastrangeland.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/anzac-day-atheist/#comment-2463</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i find it disgusting those of you who do not support anzacs. i am a 15 year old girl, and i think it is very brave and nobel of the young and old soldiers who faught. they were fighting for their country. think about that. the young kids were not forced to fight, it was their own will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i find it disgusting those of you who do not support anzacs. i am a 15 year old girl, and i think it is very brave and nobel of the young and old soldiers who faught. they were fighting for their country. think about that. the young kids were not forced to fight, it was their own will.</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm</title>
		<link>http://inastrangeland.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/anzac-day-atheist/#comment-2211</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 08:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but only by being an a-feminist yourself.  Maybe Bob Clarkson could be your role model?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but only by being an a-feminist yourself.  Maybe Bob Clarkson could be your role model?</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://inastrangeland.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/anzac-day-atheist/#comment-2210</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 05:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was pretty impressed with my hither-to unknown (to me, that is!) ability to make people believers.  I wonder if it&#039;s only a &#039;convert people to theism&#039; power, or maybe it&#039;s a power I can deploy elsewhere too.  Maybe I could use it for the good, and turn the whole National party caucus into feminists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was pretty impressed with my hither-to unknown (to me, that is!) ability to make people believers.  I wonder if it&#8217;s only a &#8216;convert people to theism&#8217; power, or maybe it&#8217;s a power I can deploy elsewhere too.  Maybe I could use it for the good, and turn the whole National party caucus into feminists.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://inastrangeland.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/anzac-day-atheist/#comment-2209</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 01:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or should that be Theism?  Hmmm, maybe I should start drinking coffee and smarten up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or should that be Theism?  Hmmm, maybe I should start drinking coffee and smarten up.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://inastrangeland.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/anzac-day-atheist/#comment-2208</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 01:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Deborah, you have singlehandedly converted someone to the cult of Deism!  ;-)</description>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://inastrangeland.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/anzac-day-atheist/#comment-2207</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 00:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://inastrangeland.wordpress.com/about/#comment-2206&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This comment was made by Bill&lt;/a&gt; on my &#039;About&#039; page, but I think he must have meant it to go here, so I have copied it.

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Whilst commemorating ANZAC day and the sacrifice made by sucessive generations (and yes war will continue as long as Man [whoops] peoplekind inhabit the earth) is prevented by your atheist views, you clearly miss the point. No one knows better the horrors and futility of war better than a soldier. No one denies that we enjoy the freedom today provided through their sacrifice. Not taking time with those men and women to remember the horror of war, what our forebears went through and a good dash of “let it not happen again” becuase their may be a religious component to the various ceremonies is at best chrulish and shows that you are a very small person. If you feel as strongly as you appear, then instead of taking the holiday why not give something else back to the community instead of leaving your lard arse in bed, gardening and writing about yourself on the computer.

You doubting the existence of god has made a believer out of me.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://inastrangeland.wordpress.com/about/#comment-2206" rel="nofollow">This comment was made by Bill</a> on my &#8216;About&#8217; page, but I think he must have meant it to go here, so I have copied it.</p>
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<p>Whilst commemorating ANZAC day and the sacrifice made by sucessive generations (and yes war will continue as long as Man [whoops] peoplekind inhabit the earth) is prevented by your atheist views, you clearly miss the point. No one knows better the horrors and futility of war better than a soldier. No one denies that we enjoy the freedom today provided through their sacrifice. Not taking time with those men and women to remember the horror of war, what our forebears went through and a good dash of “let it not happen again” becuase their may be a religious component to the various ceremonies is at best chrulish and shows that you are a very small person. If you feel as strongly as you appear, then instead of taking the holiday why not give something else back to the community instead of leaving your lard arse in bed, gardening and writing about yourself on the computer.</p>
<p>You doubting the existence of god has made a believer out of me.
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		<title>By: drewzel</title>
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		<dc:creator>drewzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never thought of Anzac Day as religious either, as some others have said, for me it&#039;s a day of remembering the people who were sent by governments to do their dirty work, so to speak.  

But it is meaningful for me.  I always shed a tear on Anzac day. Why? Because it reminds me of the horrors of War, the needlessness of fighting, the fact that both men and women were willing to “do their part” and &quot;help protect our way of life&quot;. I’ve had rellies die in the war, I know people whose family have died in the Nazi death camps. It’s all so horribly wrong. That’s what Anzac Day should remind us. That’s why it’s so sombre, because it was tragic, and still is tragic that we are STILL fighting wars around the world. I’m not for glorifying war, but if it (Anzac Day) gives meaning to people by marching and feel that their loved ones didn’t die for nothing, then that’s a valuable thing too.
For me, Anzac Day isn’t just about men and soldiers, but for everyone effected by war. And as the old soldiers die out, maybe there will be less glory and more sorrow. I don’t know.

You&#039;re right - people do act as if they want to stone you if you dare question Anzac Day...but then again, I also get that response when I tell people I&#039;m not interested in the AFL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never thought of Anzac Day as religious either, as some others have said, for me it&#8217;s a day of remembering the people who were sent by governments to do their dirty work, so to speak.  </p>
<p>But it is meaningful for me.  I always shed a tear on Anzac day. Why? Because it reminds me of the horrors of War, the needlessness of fighting, the fact that both men and women were willing to “do their part” and &#8220;help protect our way of life&#8221;. I’ve had rellies die in the war, I know people whose family have died in the Nazi death camps. It’s all so horribly wrong. That’s what Anzac Day should remind us. That’s why it’s so sombre, because it was tragic, and still is tragic that we are STILL fighting wars around the world. I’m not for glorifying war, but if it (Anzac Day) gives meaning to people by marching and feel that their loved ones didn’t die for nothing, then that’s a valuable thing too.<br />
For me, Anzac Day isn’t just about men and soldiers, but for everyone effected by war. And as the old soldiers die out, maybe there will be less glory and more sorrow. I don’t know.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right &#8211; people do act as if they want to stone you if you dare question Anzac Day&#8230;but then again, I also get that response when I tell people I&#8217;m not interested in the AFL.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Ranapia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Ranapia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It’s the accretia I mind, the kids who wear their granddad’s medals, and somehow think that confers some sort of holiness on them.&lt;/i&gt;

I wouldn&#039;t be quite so patronising, Deborah,  but I&#039;ve got to admit there&#039;s something in my gut that goes thud at the sight.  I&#039;d never wear my father&#039;s medals for one simple reason -- they are a recognition of his service, not mine.   It strikes me as being as vulgar and impertinent as wearing his uniform or regimental tie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It’s the accretia I mind, the kids who wear their granddad’s medals, and somehow think that confers some sort of holiness on them.</i></p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be quite so patronising, Deborah,  but I&#8217;ve got to admit there&#8217;s something in my gut that goes thud at the sight.  I&#8217;d never wear my father&#8217;s medals for one simple reason &#8212; they are a recognition of his service, not mine.   It strikes me as being as vulgar and impertinent as wearing his uniform or regimental tie.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My experience of ANZAC day is fervently pacifist - for me &quot;lest we forget&quot; is a potent reminder of the horrors of war which I would rather we avoid if at all possible.  

Sadly my view of ANZAC day is probably not that widespread.  Certainly the undercurrents you have written eloquently about are quite mainstream these days.  

It&#039;s worth noting that there were also Indian and French soldiers at Gallipoli.  The French were in powder blue uniforms, which I imagine would have made them pretty easy pickings in that wasted beige hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience of ANZAC day is fervently pacifist &#8211; for me &#8220;lest we forget&#8221; is a potent reminder of the horrors of war which I would rather we avoid if at all possible.  </p>
<p>Sadly my view of ANZAC day is probably not that widespread.  Certainly the undercurrents you have written eloquently about are quite mainstream these days.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth noting that there were also Indian and French soldiers at Gallipoli.  The French were in powder blue uniforms, which I imagine would have made them pretty easy pickings in that wasted beige hell.</p>
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		<title>By: g bruno</title>
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		<dc:creator>g bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They died for our freeedom&quot; surely does NOT apply to WWI, Vietnam,   WWII didnt sem to leave us particularly free, maybe Tojo&amp;Hitler would have ben worse, but NZ moving its army from the Pacific to Europe, and the A-Bombing of Japanese cities are problematic freedom fighting moves.

http://gbruno2.blogspot.com/2008/04/anzac-day-armenian-genocide-day-song-of.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They died for our freeedom&#8221; surely does NOT apply to WWI, Vietnam,   WWII didnt sem to leave us particularly free, maybe Tojo&amp;Hitler would have ben worse, but NZ moving its army from the Pacific to Europe, and the A-Bombing of Japanese cities are problematic freedom fighting moves.</p>
<p><a href="http://gbruno2.blogspot.com/2008/04/anzac-day-armenian-genocide-day-song-of.html" rel="nofollow">http://gbruno2.blogspot.com/2008/04/anzac-day-armenian-genocide-day-song-of.html</a></p>
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